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good morning thank you for joining us

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here at nasa's kennedy space center in

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florida at launch pad 39a for the

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sts-133 terminal countdown demonstration

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test pad q a it's my pleasure to

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introduce the commander of space shuttle

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discovery commander steve lindsey thanks

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well good morning thanks for coming out

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this morning it's great to be here for

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uh tcdt and to go through that again and

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vehicle's looking great all of our

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activities are going great we are

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basically trained and ready to fly just

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a few more

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to go through and then we'll be uh

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hopefully back here for an on-time

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launch on november 1st

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on the commander the mission and uh what

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i would like to do is just kind of pass

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it down to each crew member and let each

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one talk a little bit about uh

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what they're gonna be doing on their

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flight a little bit about their

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background and so first thing i'm gonna

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hand it over to eric bowe who's a pilot

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on the flight

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thanks steve good morning uh name's eric

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bowe i'm the pilot uh from atlanta

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georgia

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uh background air force test pilot

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on the mission i'm gonna be working as a

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pilot be working with steve on all the

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piloting tasks for asset entry

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rendezvous and docking looking forward

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to do the undocking and fly around

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also be working with alvin and steve on

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the shuttle robotic arm

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and also the pmm outfitting once we have

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a birth to uh station

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and now i'd like to hand it off to uh

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alvin

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thanks eric good morning everybody

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i'm alvin drew and i'll be working as

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mission specialist one uh working on the

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flight deck for ascent for the mission

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and then working along with um tim copra

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as our two space walkers doing the two

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evas during the mission as well as eric

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mentioned steve eric and i will be

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working the shuttle robotic arm for

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inspections and helping off with the

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handoff of elc-4 to the space station's

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robotic arm for installation

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i'm going to hand off now to tim we'll

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talk about what he's going to do hi

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everybody

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really uh looking forward to this

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mission my name is tim copra and i'm a

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mission specialist too i'll be working

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on the flight deck for accent and entry

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and then uh on flight days five and

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seven be working with alvin drew for our

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two space walks we also operating the

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robotic arm with mike and nicole on on

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some of the the mission uh components to

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install to the payloads and uh we're

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looking forward to it gonna pass it off

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to mike barrett

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well good morning uh thanks everybody

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for coming i assume if you know what

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tcdt stands for you're already a rabid

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space fan so uh thanks for coming uh

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i'll be on the mid deck as one of the

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mission specialists i'll be working

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rendezvous and a lot of robotics i'll

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get to spend uh four fractions of four

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days in the cupola working that

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magnificent station robotic arm two of

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which i'll be flying tim around on the

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arm as you mentioned i'm really looking

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forward to that and working also as load

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master to get things transferred to and

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from the station it'll be great to get

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back there i'm going to pass it off to

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good morning everybody nicole stott also

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one of the mission specialists really

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happy to be here my primary background

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and i think that has helped prepare me

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the most for uh flying in space is the

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time i had here at kennedy space center

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and shuttle operations uh had the

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opportunity to work here for about 10

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on this flight discovery which i'm

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really excited to be flying on again

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i'll be working with mike

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getting the the vehicle ready after we

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get to orbit and then working some of

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the docking system activities for

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rendezvous and docking and then with uh

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tim and al i'll be uh i get to be the

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boss of them from the inside while

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they're

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outside doing their evas so uh they have

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to listen to me for that and then uh

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like these guys mentioned we'll be doing

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some of the the major robotics

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activities moving the uh

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elc 4 from the payload bay so really

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looking forward to it and thanks for

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okay with that i guess we're ready to

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take any questions you might have for us

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uh thanks uh bill harwood cbs news uh

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i'll start with you commander it's the

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last flight of discovery there's only i

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guess two flights after yours

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uh maybe some perspective on discovery

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bittersweet you've probably heard that a

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lot uh you know for me personally this

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will be my third flight on discovery um

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flown it twice before uh first one was

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sds 95 which was when we took john

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senator john glenn back into space and

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then flew it again on the second return

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to flight test mission after columbia

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you know uh discovery is a workhorse uh

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fleet leader a number of flights done a

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lot of famous flights all the return to

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flight test missions uh that have been

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involved and uh

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and yet when you uh i was telling some

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employees here yesterday when you walk

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inside at a discovery and see it it

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still looks like a new car even after

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almost 30 years of service and uh

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so it's a great it's a great machine a

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great vehicle with a each one has its

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own personality and discoveries no

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different than that but as far as the

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last flight it's a privilege i think for

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us to be able to fly it on the last

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flight and it's a real tribute to the

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folks here and in the other manned

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spacecraft centers

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for all they've done to keep these

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vehicles flying and and uh and allowing

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the you know being able to do all the

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things they do so if i think for us it's

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a privilege to be able to fly that last

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flight on discovery but it's also sad

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because after that it's retired i just

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hope that when it goes to the

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smithsonian that that it's it's laid out

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in a way such that the public

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can actually go through it and see and

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get a feeling of what it was really like

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to fly it and uh that's something that

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it'll always be in our memories

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thanks and one more for me and it's

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really for both tim and al if you guys

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one and two uh the content maybe one of

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appreciate that thanks yeah that sounds

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so uh it's interesting how this all

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evolved we started out with an eight day

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mission it was going to be a long

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weekend on space station and uh then it

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evolved into two pretty uh demanding

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spacewalks and uh really excited about

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the disabled pump module installed on a

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place on station that's not great for

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bringing it back home so mike is going

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to fly me up to that location and we'll

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install that back on a place on space

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station where they can pull that off and

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so uh while i'm doing that al is going

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to be working with venting this pump

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since this module has some residual

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ammonia inside the tank we need to get

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rid of that to put it in the payload bay

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on a future mission so we'll be working

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coordinated activity al and i are going

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to go out to the starboard side of space

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station and install a wedge that allows

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this this boom to be in a position that

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future vehicles to come up and that

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won't be in the way for those missions

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to move the entire length of the vehicle

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for future maintenance activities so

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module allowing it to clean up so we can

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mission itself while that's going on

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tim's going to head out to the outboard

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side of the columbus module and retrieve

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el wapa lw apa payload that's been out

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there for a while they need to get that

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stanchions and putting lens covers on it

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bag it up i'll continue to clean up from

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the stage eva that doug wheelock and

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tracy caldwell dyson did they left some

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i'll get those bagged up as well and get

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ready to bring those back

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finally i'll head over to the

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starboard side and install a work light

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it's called a cedar light to light up

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maintenance and then we'll get rid of

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insulation outside on the outside of

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and then we'll tim and i will tag back

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up towards the end of the mission there

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and uh and get ready to head back in

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since i missed something else you had

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oh and last but not least of course we

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have a japanese payload it's called

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message in a bottle where we're going to

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capture some of the vacuum of space to

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hi i'm jim siegel i'm with the

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celebration independent newspaper and

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this being the last voyage of discovery

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i wondered if you had any special events

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or ceremonies planned while you're

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up in space or are you bringing any

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special mementos with you to commemorate

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or is it a surprise

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well i don't think you can take the

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final voyage of a ship of exploration

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and not take some moments to celebrate

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its history and i think many people know

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that our ship discovery which is a ship

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of exploration was named after several

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predecessor ships also named discovery

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all ships of exploration so it's a

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culmination of a great heritage really

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and we hope there are future ships

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bearing that name

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uh we will be carrying a medallion from

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the royal society that was struck in

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honor of captain cook

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and uh we'll be doing a little

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commemorative

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and uh on cook's third voyage there was

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a ship called discovery and uh that's

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the main ship for which our ship

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discovery uh took its name

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and we'll be doing a few other tape

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commemoratives on it as well

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but again you cannot not celebrate the

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history and the heritage of this ship

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and we plan to continue that certainly

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after we land

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great and uh second question um

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this is this being the last voyage again

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when you return to earth are you going

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to be doing anything special to

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to button it up to prepare for

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you know whatever for storage uh

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anything special compared to other

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flights that you might have been on

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um we're probably not the best ones to

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be able to answer that question uh the

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way the way it works is uh kennedy space

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center

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basically gives us the vehicle at launch

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and we only get it while we're on orbit

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and as soon as we wheel stop it goes

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back to kennedy space center and they

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own it again so we're just borrowing it

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from them but after it lands they're

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gonna have to go through some processing

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uh to to safe all the systems to get all

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the hazardous chemicals off and all

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those sorts of things and they're gonna

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do some additional preparations but the

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the plan for discovery right now the

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museum has laid claim to discovery and

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as i understand it that's where it's

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going to head

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and so they have to do some preparations

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i have to put it back on the 747 carrier

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aircraft to bring it there and but as

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far as all of the detailed

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preparations are going to happen i'm not

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familiar with exactly what all those are

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hi dan billow from wesh tv a question

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for nicole you mentioned your experience

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here at the kennedy space center

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and uh

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you're obviously aware that a lot of

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people are getting laid off

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can you just give me your perspective on

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that your thoughts on on that as far as

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the end maybe from a perspective of

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someone who knows the people here so

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well

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you can't answer that question without

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the word sad coming to mind i think it

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is certainly going to be a

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you know a sad time we've already seen

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quite a few people

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walk out the door

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we've had the chance to come down here

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and visit

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several times throughout our training

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flow

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and i think what impresses me the most

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is the spirit

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that is here with these people and it's

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been here forever i mean this is

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definitely one of these places where

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people come to work because it's a heart

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and soul thing it's not just

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a job for them and you see that in every

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aspect of the work that goes on here and

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we are

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truly thankful for that and i think it

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gives us confidence in the vehicle and

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and the workforce and uh in the mission

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that we're going to fly and know that

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we'll have success because of them

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and i and i think you know it's it's

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just really nice to see

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uh when when we go out to a facility

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knowing that

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some of these very special people are

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going to be leaving and to still to talk

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to them and feel their excitement about

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the participation and the opportunity

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that they've had to work on this

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magnificent program i mean you know look

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at the vehicle behind us you cannot

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be anything but impressed by what you

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see here both in the hardware and the

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people so

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um yes sad but it's it's really nice to

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see the uh

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um the the real spirit that comes from

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kevin oliver with wftv another question

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for nicole before the atlantis had the

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extra mission you were scheduled to be

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the last female to ride on a space

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shuttle does that distinction carry

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anything to you i mean anything

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well for me personally it's really nice

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to have the opportunity to uh to fly

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again on the shuttle i um

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you know i'd like to think that we're

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not really looking at it that way

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anymore in terms of you know women

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flying or men flying it's um you know we

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work as a really nicely integrated crew

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and for me it's it's personally nice to

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know that

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i don't feel that as as a distinction

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i hope that that what we do with these

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final missions is celebrate this program

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and and the vehicles and you know kind

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of instead of looking at um

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you know individuals uh and their last

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opportunity to fly on it

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hi michelle spitzer with florida today

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nicole you can keep the mic

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we're coming up on the 10th anniversary

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of the iss being continuously occupied i

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know you spent some time up there can

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you talk about what was the hardest

410
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adjustment for you to life up there was

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it eating sleeping communicating with

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family

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you know

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everything about

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the station experience for me was better

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than i expected it to be and i had

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very high expectations of what it was

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going to be like

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and there's a couple other guys here who

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could speak to this as well but

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um

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i think ultimately the most difficult

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thing is just not having your family

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there i mean

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that was it although our communications

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that we have set up there now are really

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wonderful you can call down on

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essentially on a phone to talk to your

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family we have video conferences once a

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week there's email so there's really an

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open line of communication that that

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certainly helps

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i've always been one that in in these

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training uh experiences that we have and

435
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getting ready to fly

436
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there's such cool things that we get to

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do

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and it could be i think you could use

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the word perfect if you could have um

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those special people in your life

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open question for any of the crew i'm

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mark raderon from talking space and my

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question is about how you do the

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impossible

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if a friend or a neighbor may be a

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student in school or university

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ask how to move beyond what seems

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difficult or impossible from your

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experience and success

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your education training what advice

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would you give

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how do you do the impossible

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that's that's a really good question you

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know really

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i think we don't look at this as the

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impossible because the way we've trained

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and everything else and and that's kind

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of the

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things out in life that look like

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impossible you do them one step at a

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time you know you kind of set your goals

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you kind of look at the big picture see

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how things that you want to do and then

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you just attack those problems day in

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and day out and i think that's probably

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the hardest things is that every day you

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got to get up and do your best and as

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you keep doing that especially with the

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team you kind of get the synergistic

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effect you know one person could do one

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thing but you know when you have a group

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of people i mean every time we look at

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this amazing machine

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and you go it's amazing that humans can

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build something like that that we can

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take this ship up into space and make it

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happen and so to me

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the thing that really makes that

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difference is that we have a whole group

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of people that are working together that

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are trying to do these hard things and

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then they're no longer hard they're not

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impossible they become easy so you know

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for the people out there trying to do

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those things

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you know set your your goals high and

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keep working hard and you'll get there

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and one more question from me for um the

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commander or pilot would you mind uh

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describing an rtls for me uh go through

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it step by step if you would and you

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know flying backwards what would that be

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like

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well it's obviously something we hope

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never to have to do and just to kind of

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explain in our tls is that for some

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reason we normally what would get us

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into this it's a return to launch site

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uh profile if for some normally what

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gets you into this kind of scenario

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would be a loss of an engine a main

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engine we have the three main engines

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plus the solid rocket boosters one of

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those main engines failed very early in

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flight uh we'd be returning back to

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back here at kennedy space center and

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basically the profile is a pretty

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interesting one you kind of alluded to

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it you basically fly up and what we're

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trying to do is basically burn out all

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the fuel in the tank so that we can

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separate from it safely and then

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obviously being a profile that we can

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come back and land the space shuttle

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back here the orbiter back at kennedy

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space center so there's definitely a lot

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of dynamic

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phases of flight it would be a pretty

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exciting ride and like i said hopefully

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it will be one that we don't have to do

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but we're well trained in it it's

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amazing the amount of detail that we've

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gone into to actually make it happen

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there's some interesting parts of the

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flight as you're going away from this

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you're actually pointing

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back towards the site but flying

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backwards because we've already built up

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so much speed leaving the launch site

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and then eventually our velocity turns

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around and we start flying back towards

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the launch site again all the timing is

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working to get the external tank empty

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so that we can separate from it and then

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we come back into land stevie anything

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dan

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yeah i would say the uh the thing that's

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the most unique about it is as eric

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mentioned was the um

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was a part where you're where you're

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you're essentially flying backwards uh

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you're you're well out of the atmosphere

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so you're not really flying into your

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plume per se but you're flying backwards

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and as you slow as your as your relative

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velocity to the launch site gets slower

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and slower and slower

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you're continually dropping the whole

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time you eventually reach a point which

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we call v-rail or relative velocity of

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zero where you're actually dropping

552
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straight down at about

553
00:18:52,870 --> 00:18:51,760
yeah almost a thousand feet per second

554
00:18:54,390 --> 00:18:52,880
so you're dropping straight down and

555
00:18:56,310 --> 00:18:54,400
then eventually you thrust out of this

556
00:18:58,549 --> 00:18:56,320
and you start climbing and climbing and

557
00:19:00,150 --> 00:18:58,559
we usually hit about mach six and a half

558
00:19:01,830 --> 00:19:00,160
or something like that right when the

559
00:19:03,590 --> 00:19:01,840
engine's cut off with the tank empty as

560
00:19:05,590 --> 00:19:03,600
eric mentioned because the most critical

561
00:19:06,870 --> 00:19:05,600
part of that is making sure we separate

562
00:19:08,950 --> 00:19:06,880
with an empty tank so we don't

563
00:19:10,390 --> 00:19:08,960
re-contact with the tank once you do

564
00:19:12,549 --> 00:19:10,400
that and you're off the tank

565
00:19:14,150 --> 00:19:12,559
successfully then you kind of hit a

566
00:19:15,430 --> 00:19:14,160
standard profile coming in to enter and

567
00:19:17,350 --> 00:19:15,440
when you come in and land just like we

568
00:19:19,669 --> 00:19:17,360
would on a on a regular flight so it's

569
00:19:21,590 --> 00:19:19,679
very dynamic it's a certified flight

570
00:19:23,590 --> 00:19:21,600
mode which means uh the vehicle is

571
00:19:26,549 --> 00:19:23,600
certified to do this if we were ever to

572
00:19:29,029 --> 00:19:26,559
need to and hopefully we never will

573
00:19:32,390 --> 00:19:29,039
and just quickly are you heads up at v

574
00:19:34,070 --> 00:19:32,400
rel yes yeah you stay uh

575
00:19:35,510 --> 00:19:34,080
you're essentially your head's down as

576
00:19:36,310 --> 00:19:35,520
we go out over the water we're heads

577
00:19:39,029 --> 00:19:36,320
down

578
00:19:41,029 --> 00:19:39,039
and uh in this rtls once once we declare

579
00:19:42,789 --> 00:19:41,039
it it gets it goes to what it does is

580
00:19:44,630 --> 00:19:42,799
we're still thrusting away

581
00:19:45,990 --> 00:19:44,640
and and the system is calculating how

582
00:19:47,830 --> 00:19:46,000
much fuel

583
00:19:49,750 --> 00:19:47,840
at what how much percentage of fuel

584
00:19:51,669 --> 00:19:49,760
remaining we should pitch back and start

585
00:19:52,950 --> 00:19:51,679
thrusting back and once we hit that

586
00:19:54,710 --> 00:19:52,960
place it's called powered pitch around

587
00:19:57,830 --> 00:19:54,720
the vehicle actually pitches over the

588
00:19:58,950 --> 00:19:57,840
top so now we're heads up heading back

589
00:20:00,230 --> 00:19:58,960
even though we're flying backwards

590
00:20:01,990 --> 00:20:00,240
that's how it works

591
00:20:04,070 --> 00:20:02,000
that sounds like a piece of cake

592
00:20:05,350 --> 00:20:04,080
escape i really don't even know how to

593
00:20:07,270 --> 00:20:05,360
follow that question let me ask this one

594
00:20:08,950 --> 00:20:07,280
though for the commander um

595
00:20:10,870 --> 00:20:08,960
you guys originally had a very different

596
00:20:12,870 --> 00:20:10,880
flight uh you were going to be the last

597
00:20:14,470 --> 00:20:12,880
mission in the program and then

598
00:20:16,230 --> 00:20:14,480
for no fault of anyone's it ended up

599
00:20:17,270 --> 00:20:16,240
being the next the next the last flight

600
00:20:19,190 --> 00:20:17,280
in the program how did that affect

601
00:20:20,789 --> 00:20:19,200
training and how difficult was it to

602
00:20:23,750 --> 00:20:20,799
shift gears like that kind of in mid

603
00:20:24,470 --> 00:20:23,760
flow to get ready for this flight um

604
00:20:26,549 --> 00:20:24,480
well

605
00:20:28,950 --> 00:20:26,559
as uh i think tim mentioned we started

606
00:20:31,190 --> 00:20:28,960
out as an eight-day mission with no evas

607
00:20:33,190 --> 00:20:31,200
our our objective in a nutshell at that

608
00:20:35,270 --> 00:20:33,200
point was we're still going to carry the

609
00:20:38,070 --> 00:20:35,280
the permanent multi-purpose module we're

610
00:20:39,990 --> 00:20:38,080
going to carry the elc up and uh our job

611
00:20:41,990 --> 00:20:40,000
was to outfit station and leave space

612
00:20:44,070 --> 00:20:42,000
station the best possible configuration

613
00:20:45,909 --> 00:20:44,080
for after we left logistically and that

614
00:20:50,070 --> 00:20:45,919
was our whole mission uh

615
00:20:52,230 --> 00:20:50,080
the we had uh the ams flight uh magnetic

616
00:20:53,990 --> 00:20:52,240
alpha magnetic spectrometer flight got

617
00:20:55,669 --> 00:20:54,000
the payload got delayed so they moved

618
00:20:57,190 --> 00:20:55,679
out past us and then there now there's

619
00:21:00,310 --> 00:20:57,200
uh the authorization bill at least is

620
00:21:01,830 --> 00:21:00,320
authorized a final flight um so for as

621
00:21:03,990 --> 00:21:01,840
far as our preparations go we actually

622
00:21:05,510 --> 00:21:04,000
took a launch slip uh because of some of

623
00:21:07,750 --> 00:21:05,520
the changes going on and spreading out

624
00:21:10,230 --> 00:21:07,760
the flights a little bit um and then we

625
00:21:11,909 --> 00:21:10,240
added the two space walks so the last

626
00:21:13,750 --> 00:21:11,919
cup two three months have gotten a lot

627
00:21:15,990 --> 00:21:13,760
busier uh as we had to add in these

628
00:21:18,070 --> 00:21:16,000
spacewalks we didn't plan to train for

629
00:21:19,750 --> 00:21:18,080
um but all in all we've been able to

630
00:21:21,830 --> 00:21:19,760
keep a pretty consistent schedule and as

631
00:21:23,270 --> 00:21:21,840
far as as a crew getting ready to do a

632
00:21:25,350 --> 00:21:23,280
different mission

633
00:21:27,909 --> 00:21:25,360
really not a big deal for us

634
00:21:30,310 --> 00:21:27,919
you know you expect changes late things

635
00:21:32,630 --> 00:21:30,320
change on space station we're trained to

636
00:21:35,270 --> 00:21:32,640
to to deal with those changes we even

637
00:21:36,630 --> 00:21:35,280
uh specifically train more skills based

638
00:21:38,710 --> 00:21:36,640
these days than we used to we used to

639
00:21:40,149 --> 00:21:38,720
train more task-based and through all

640
00:21:42,070 --> 00:21:40,159
the skills-based training that we've

641
00:21:44,710 --> 00:21:42,080
done particularly in the eva area we're

642
00:21:47,029 --> 00:21:44,720
able to adapt to late changes and and

643
00:21:48,710 --> 00:21:47,039
handle that in our flow so for from a

644
00:21:52,390 --> 00:21:48,720
preparation standpoint it really hasn't

645
00:21:53,830 --> 00:21:52,400
been uh been that big of a deal

646
00:21:55,590 --> 00:21:53,840
that's all the time for questions we

647
00:21:57,190 --> 00:21:55,600
have if we please have the crew stand